----- Original Message
From: Name removed
Sent: Wednesday, June
11, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: In response to
Tim the 'Parent/Student/Educator/Activist/IDIOT's..
Here is my 'experienced...been through the system 360
degrees' response to the "Tim the
toolman..grunt..grunt...grunt..Parent (God help
us)/Student (obvious example of the brainwashing you spoke
of)/Educator (Bravo, an Educator communicating in street
slang)/ Activist ( afraid to even ask for what).....
From: Name removed
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:33 PM
Hall of Shame
I would personally like to nominate Ronald Riley for the
Hall of Shame in the idiot advocate category. (How
perfectly fitting and in line with most school
administrative attitudes...when presented with any
informed opinion or advocacy positions that challenge the
'system'...resort to name calling and immediately take a
Riley, you are nothing more than a bully who is trying to
use the internet as your device of intimidation. (As
District and Educational Administrators consistently
intimidate any parent advocating for services or dare to
show any amount of knowledge in areas of parental rights
regulations?? If Mr. Riley is a 'bully' what does that
make school administrators, who use public funds for
services, hostage and abuse that responsibility by denying
or objecting to services the funds were granted for in the
first place IF a parent becomes too vocal or advocates too
well for their child. OH!! Believe it...it can not
be denied..ask ANY parent boxing their way through a
Special Education I.E.P. meeting or having to fight tooth
and nail for the funds granted for those very services
only to be deliberately intimidated by a District Special
Ed Admin. who is rewarded for the funds they do NOT spend
on related services for special needs programs ...and can
then be transferred into other non related service budgets
you truly care about making public schools better than why
do you seek to go after individuals.
If YOU truly cared about making public schools better, you
would be questioning why District Admins, Board Members,
and Super's are raking in $300-$400.00 dollars per DAY as
salaries yet continue cry broke when legitimate services
are not being provided, THAT is truly a disgrace to all
tax payers, and Tim..wise up, if you truly are an
'Educator' 'teacher'' you're getting screwed too...the
teachers sure aren't seeing any of that money on their
do you presume to rate teachers?
the same standards that 'some' teachers and 'most'
Administrators presume to know and rate what is best for
OUR children??? As a Parent and an activist etc..etc..are
you suggesting that the general population isn't qualified
enough to even hold a personal opinion regarding the
average performance of usually average Teachers?? Does one
now have to be a Rocket Scientist to realize the
difference between a dedicated and responsible teacher
from an indifferent, burnt out, or just plain lazy
teacher?? I think NOT Tim..if you 'truly' believe
that..you need to spend some more time being an 'activist'
for your own position as a parent and learn about parental
you really have all the needed knowledge to do such a
exactly how much knowledge is 'needed' to identify a
complete lop or a self involved Administrator??..not much
Tim, not much.)
seem to have some serious unresolved issues to deal with.
we to presume that you now have included Psychologist to
your lengthy list of 'titles' too?? Surely you wouldn't
offer a psychological diagnosis, without having the
'needed knowledge' or degree to do so were ya Tim?? That
would make you a hypocrite then wouldn't it Tim?? )
you picked on by some jock when you were a student?
is yet, another amazing assumption from Tim..the
comments tend to make me laugh more than anything else.
If you 'truly' cared about the serious nature of crisis
within the Public School Systems, rather then laugh at
those who are trying to raise interest or at very least,
involvement in the subject, why don't you put those ole'
'activist' skills into use and offer an educated,
informed, rebuttal to Ron's opinion with some alternative
choices worthy of further discussion?? That is what a
person who 'truly' cares about the issue would do..in MY
humble opinion of course .)
Apparently you weren't one of the people in the 60's
who decided to go into education to avoid the draft.
you probably weren't even living in the 60's, let alone
aware of the vast social changes that were transpiring
during that era..)
Were you one of the people who avoided life by going on
accuse, attack, accuse...I'm starting to actually believe
the 'Educator' part of your title. Practicing for a
District Administrative position are ya Tim?...You're
going to fit right into the mold)
man, you still 'trippin.'
street slang in a 'trying to be appear knowledgeable on
the topic response letter further invalidates your claims
of 'truly caring' and/or having any of your own 'needed
knowledge' to participate in this discussion unless, of
course, you're just throwing in your OWN personal .02 like
the rest of us average Jane & John Doe Americans are
also doing...without any special degrees or titles.
I sincerely hope that you lose this case (Editorial
Note: Case Won) and I pray that
your children don't feel the brunt of what you are about
to receive in the public back lashing that I guarantee you
this 'special'??? Pssssst...Tim, most 'REAL'
activist and/or advocates for specific causes, don't give
a damn about public back lashing or retaliatory opinions
because usually, by the time someone actually reaches the
point in time that they can even responsibly claim to BE
an activist/advocate, for a particular cause, They have
already encountered great amounts of backlashing (which by
the way Tim..if you're taking activist notes...indicates
you're ruffling feathers, inciting participation and
provoking passionate thought on a topic which is
GOOD...for an 'Activist'
don't deserve this anymore than any teacher or
administrator who you happened to disagree with.
course, no child could ever deserve any 'backlash' from
the actions or levels of participation his/her parents
might choose to express but there will always be 'certain'
types of people who would even make mention of such
hypothetical possibilities because those same 'certain'
people think that way....and some of those 'certain' types
of people end up administrating or teaching on a public
level, and they enmesh themselves right in with other
'certain' types of people who are just like them so they
feel empowered and unaccountable to those 'normal/regular'
types of people who, after many years of wading through
the bull**** of the average school district conduct, they
finally become immune to the Tim's and the Joe Educator
Blows who become scarier by the year in their
"you must have the unspecified, needed knowledge to
question or dare disagree with the way 'WE' Educators take
possession of PUBLIC FUNDS and then, (with minimal State
or Federal accountability), administer, distribute, or
pocket those PUBLIC FUNDS. These would be the same 'types'
of people who dare tell us, the average American tax
paying parents, what our children 'need' and what is best
for 'us' parents, to think or not think and then
progressively become bold enough to suggest that one must
hold or possess a particular knowledge base to express an
opinion about what you 'Educators & Administrators'
are doing with OUR money, OUR children, and OUR
schools...That's right Tim...I say OURS because they are
OURS and a new day is finally dawning in which the regular
Joe & Jane American are going to start demanding
accountability, choice, and equal partnership in the
education and administration of educational decision, is
applied to OUR children.
I wish YOU all the best in your future public
participation's Tim. You might want to concentrate
on your 'student' portion of your titles because your
'activist' career needs a LOT of work and your 'Educator'
prospects will probably not pan out under a new system of
accountability and equal public administration....however,
I bet you're a decent parent (although that job doesn't
pay very well).
To all of the dedicated, professional, and wonderful
teachers & educators who ARE out there....and there
are still plenty left....a million thank-you's for doing
all that you do and to the rest who don't fall into that
catagory....ready yourselves for the accounting that is
ever more close..your days of being dead weight are
A 'Peachy' Good Day to All ;o)
Brianna - Parent/Average American Tax Payer with an
opinion/Student Rights Advocate STILL learning something
(Parent, student, educator, and activist
Brianna, thanks for a thoughtful and well
reasoned response. Perhaps our public school system would not
be such a mess if we could get the same sort of responses from
any level of the administration of public schools.
It is interesting that that
public school administrators and teachers and their unions
are at each other's throats except when they are faced by
parents who are demanding that they perform. Then,
and only then they can work together .... work together to
marginalize, ridicule, discredit, or to try and cower the
parent into buying a tube of KY for each hand while
expecting the parent or other citizens to accept that they
the teachers and administrators are going to rule the
For example, when I finally
went public with my complaints John
Sharpe, President of Lake
Fenton's incompetent school board quickly rattled the
saber, suggesting that my exercise of free speech was
grounds for a lawsuit.
Just a month or so later I
receive a vague letter demanding that I remove the Lori
Hatfield story. I
responded that I was willing to correct error of fact, but
that in the absence of such error that I would not remove
Months went by with NO
response, and just thirty days before the vote for a
whopping $30 MILLION dollar bond, a suit is filed.
The suit took valuable time from my efforts to defeat the
bond and it passed.
Now we have a twice
divorced mother, Lori
Hatfield living on a teacher's
salary who just happens to bring a lawsuit with such great
timing. Coincidence? I think not.
One of this teacher's
friends, a speech teacher, also happens to be thick in the
teacher's union. Since this suit cost about $10,000-$15,000
and it seems unlikely that that the teacher could afford
such an amount on her salary, it is reasonable to at least
suspect that someone else bankrolled the suit.
Now my question is was the suit
bankrolled by the teacher's union or by the
administration? Or perhaps both?
After all, both the school's
administrators and the union profited from this action.
Both are threatened by the prospect of the public telling all
on web sites like QualitySchoolsNow.org.
Ronald J. Riley